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Noise vs. Noticeability: How to Get the RIGHT Attention!

Jessica Spawn Season 2 Episode 7

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What makes you and your story actually PITCHWORTHY?

This month on 'Gal on the Prowl,' Jessica Spawn sits down with PR powerhouse, author, publicist, and Pitchworthy podcast host K.J. Blattenbauer for a candid conversation about publicity, publishing, podcasting, and the art of getting noticed for the RIGHT reasons.

K.J. takes us behind the curtain of the PR world to talk about what makes a story worth pitching, why some ideas get attention while others get ignored, and what entrepreneurs, authors, and creators need to understand before trying to land media coverage.

We also dive into her own journey, from building a career in public relations to becoming an author and podcast host, and the lessons she's learned helping people turn their expertise into stories others actually want to hear.

Because here's the thing: You can have a brilliant idea, an incredible business, or a story that could change someone's life, but if nobody knows about it, how far can it really go?

In this episode:

•What makes a person or story “pitchworthy”

•The biggest mistakes people make when pitching the media

•Publishing a book and building authority around your expertise

•What K.J. has learned from hosting the Pitchworthy podcast

•The difference between PR and publicity and why knowing it matters

•Why your personal story may be one of your most powerful business assets

If you're an entrepreneur, author, creator, business owner, or simply a woman ready to stop playing small with what you have to offer, this conversation is for you.

Welcome back to Gal on the Prowl, where we talk about what it really takes to Rise. Rebuild. Roar.

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Speaker 3

Welcome to Gal on the Prowl. I'm your host, Jessica Spawn. I'm helping women rise, rebuild, and roar. Today I have a very special guest. She's a publicist, she's an author, she's all kinds of really cool things. Today, our guest is KJ Blattenbauer. Woo! Audience yells. Scream, scream. Welcome. Thank you for having me. Happy to be here. I'm so happy that you are here. Okay. This is amazing. I've been wanting to interview her since I met her in January. She launched a book called Pitchworthy. And plus, I love her pink. She's like very on brand for me. So I've been wanting to get her. So she's here now and she's got a new book coming out and all kinds of stuff. So we're gonna share secrets about how to get the your visibility up, right? Your brand and and and at what point the brand actually needs publicity, which is always but we'll we'll tell you that in a second. So well, you want to start with some background first? Like how how did you get into PR?

Speaker 1

Sure. I mean, I I'm I'm from middle of nowhere, okay, Midwest, so really small town. So I've always been fascinated with why some people, the rumor mill runs wild, small town, everyone's famous in a small town, right? And how some people kind of avoid all the drama. Yeah. I've also growing up in the middle of nowhere, learned that I wanted to be at Hollywood celebrities, right? You like you read the people magazines and like the 17s and whatever they tiger beat when we were little, those ones, and you see those celebrities, and you're just like, oh, and some celebrities just take off. And the other ones, like you've never hear from them after a movie. And I was like, what is the mechanism that makes those people move, go, or whatever? And so I like to study rooms and I like to study people and what they're doing. So when it came to picking a career, I was the kid that in school was report card said, Oh, talks too much. Yes. And then I decided, well, I should turn that into career. I love people, I love telling their stories. I want to, I'm fascinated with what makes people popular, what makes people want to be around them. Yeah. And so publicity seemed like the easiest fit for me that where they would pay me money to talk on the phone and tell people stories. Um, I did corporate America, I did crisis communications, I worked for agencies, and then 14 years ago, I moved to San Diego without knowing anyone, only been there twice, moved into apartments, sight unseen, had one contract and thought, how hard can it be to find a job? How hard can it be? It was hard. Uh it was really hard. Uh, and then I was like, why don't I have one contract? I'll just get more until I find a real job. And so I just started cold calling everyone that had ever tried to poach me from corporate America, brands I thought that needed PR help, people I just thought were cool to work with or had suggestions for. And by the end of my first week in San Diego, I had 13 clients. I'm like, well, I'll just do my own thing. And that's here we are.

Speaker 3

I love that because um I think a lot of us wonder like, can we do our own thing? We want to do our own thing, we're scared to leave our job. I left my job over a year ago, as you know, with no plan um, because it was a toxic environment. My male boss was a horrible person. And um, I said no more. So set my boundaries, launched the podcast, had my kids' book come out, and then started acquiring clients again for Hungry Cat Media. Yep. Really slowly. But your story in January helped inspire me to just to hustle, you know what I mean? Like just knowing, just hearing that, like it's possible. Yeah, like you just how do you have to be hungry? So I so my my business is called Hungry Cat Media's, like you're hungry, right? So like you hustle. Um, and I think maybe that's what people are not doing enough of, or why do we why do people not just take the leap sometimes? Do you well I think it's it's well, it's scary, right?

Speaker 1

Like it's it's literally scary as fuck. And I think if I had waited, like people say, Oh, a six-month cushion and just stay, be whatever. No, I my villain origin story was that I went through one of my last corporate reviews where I'd made the company millions of dollars, they were getting ready to be bought up by private equity, all on the sweat from my back, making them popular. And my boss literally sat me down and he said, You're just too much for this office. You just you're too passionate. You know, you you intimidate Bob in accounting. Um, we you know, standard is a three percent raise. We're only gonna be able to give you one percent this year. And I was like, no, this bullshit, like, no. I'm like, you know what? I think we're done here. And he's like, Okay, great. Just how do you think this review went? And I'm like, no, I think we're done here. Like, we are done. And I just left the building. And then I sent him my two weeks' notice the next day, which in PR, you don't give two weeks' notice. They don't want you there. You know all the secrets, they just want you gone. Um, and my the CEO of our company, not my boss, the CEO of our company came to my home the next day and said, I do not accept a resignation. And I'm like, that's not how resignations work. But I did let them woo me enough to be. Did you get a better raise? Did you come back? What happened? I did not. I said, I said, while you find my replacement, because I knew they were never gonna find someone who could replace me. There's yes, exactly. Well, one, because I'm amazing, but also like they weren't paying me enough. No one was gonna do everything I was doing for that rate. I was like, you know, for three times my salary for the next 90 days, I'll work on a contract basis. And I was like, then I can get out of here. Yeah, like and then I have time, like then I have a runway, and then I'm still kind of getting a paycheck at the time. Now I'm like, oh, that was brilliant. At the time, I was just like, get me out of here. Like I just get off my front stoop, get me out of here. I'm not going back. Yeah, and every single time I think about to this day, anytime I redo my website or I do a case study or their logo is anywhere, my old boss, who is still in his same job because no one else will take him, will try and threaten me with an email and some legal cease and desist bullshit. Yeah. And all I can think of is, oh Jason, you tiny silly man. You tiny silly man.

Speaker 3

I love that's a really good, that's a good way to think back on the tiny silly men in our lives. Yeah. Yeah. Because we're both kind of we're kind of strong women.

Speaker 1

We're like alphas a little bit. I mean, look, I love men. I love them and they are wonderful, they can do so many things. But I learned very early that I wanted to work hard and I wanted to make my own money, and I wanted to have someone in my life that complimented my life. I didn't want to need someone. I don't want to stay trapped in a relationship financially, I don't want to stay trapped in a relationship emotionally, and I hate being told what to do. So my poor husband, but he loves you.

Speaker 3

I thought he's amazing. Yeah, yeah. I think he recently posted something about your wedding, uh, like recap or something. How many years?

Speaker 1

We've been together nine years, yeah. Nine year anniversary. Congratulations. That's actually incredibly amazing.

Speaker 3

And I know who can put up with me for that long. Not that that. I just meant that you could put up with someone for that long. Anyone can put up with anyone for that long. My god. Um, okay, so Pitchworthy. Yes. I I read it and there were so many great tips in there. Um gosh, I'm trying to think what if you had to just distill it down to like two things. And her book is called Pitchworthy. Is it on Amazon? Yeah. It's on Amazon. Um, what would they what would like the two like main takeaways be that you would want people to have?

Speaker 1

Everyone has an amazing story. Okay. And you should tell it. And there's never, you never should wait. Everyone should be promoting their amazing story. Everyone has an amazing story to tell. Yeah. Share it. And there's no perfect time. Like everyone waits till they have tons of money or they can hire a publicist or they have more followers or something, this, or what they make all the excuses because they don't want to put themselves out there. Just put yourself out there. It's pretty awkward though. Everything's awkward. Riding a bike is awkward the first time, swimming for the first time. Me trying to eat spaghetti in a restaurant for the first time, like everything's awkward. But we all get better at it.

Speaker 3

That's true. That's true. That's that's why I am a fan of Gary B because he's all like, you know, do it now. Right. He's like, fucking do it. What is the saying done is better than perfect? It's true. Yeah, because you actually did it. Exactly. And you never look back and wonder what if. No. Like, I think for me, that's the biggest fear. When I went on a date a couple years ago, I I don't ask questions on a deeper level because I want to know, like, immediately, is there a point to being here? Like, I have to I'm busy. I got things to do. Yeah, I mean, time is valuable, right? And I remember being like, you know, what's your biggest fear? And he was like, um, losing my job. And at this point, I was like ready to leave my job because I had broken my back. My boss was like lying about me and took me to HR. It was a whole crazy story. But like at that point, I was actually ready to walk away from my job. And I was like, losing your job is your biggest fear. I was like, hold on. I was like, my biggest fear is not living up to my potential like in life. And I'm like, I don't think we're on a match, like when it comes to like no ambition or even just like purpose. Cause like when you know your your purpose while you're here, and like you that you get the passion, right? Which drives you, which will push you to not settle for things like just a job or being afraid of losing it, but like you'll create things. Yeah. Because you're in a space and you know you're here for a reason to do something, you know. Like you're changing people's lives, inspiring people.

Speaker 1

So I mean, I hope so.

Speaker 3

No, you are.

Speaker 1

I hope it's doing sound good out there.

Speaker 3

You are, and you're working on um another book? Yeah. How many books do you have?

Speaker 1

Technically, I have three. Um, Pitchworthy Pink is the DIY book that tells you everything you know about public relations. Pitchworthy the White Version is the workbook that works you step by step how you build your own PR.

Speaker 3

Which I'm gonna go through. Not on the show, but I'm gonna go through it and follow back up with everybody. Like literally, right now we're just gonna go page by page. I'm gonna go through it. Let's let's get started, class. Yeah, on page one. Page one, what PR is actually for. Okay.

Speaker 1

Okay, perfect. See? And everyone's gonna learn. Um, so I have those two, and then I have one coming out probably early 2027. It's called Impossible to Ignore, and it studies um Impossible. Impossible, yeah, impossible to ignore. I mean just a cat on it. Um it fits the theme. You can't ignore it. There's a cat on the cover. Stops you in your tracks. Um, but it's possible to ignore, and it studies how people go from unknown to impossible to ignore, right? It's how two people can have the same opportunity and one takes off, and one you never hear from again. And it's a simple framework that literally anyone can do, no matter what they want to do. Corporate America, start their own job, become a famous influencer.

Speaker 3

Okay, okay. So someone wants to become a famous influencer. That's not a goal of mine. No. I want to be what I am, but I guess I consider myself a creator. Yeah, storyteller, create. I don't know. The influencer world looks stressful. Um but also fun for people who want to do that. Right. Uh I do see friends of mine who like have been building that up and they get to go to nice restaurants and all the they get all the free things, and I'm like, oh, that does look fun.

Speaker 1

Right. But also like you could just be a creator and make your own money and then go to those restaurants. Go to the restaurants.

Speaker 3

Yeah, there's a bunch of different ways to do things in life.

Speaker 1

Exactly.

Speaker 3

I'm excited. Okay, from this next book, are there any like pieces of gold or nuggets that you want to share?

Speaker 1

Yeah, the easiest way to get ahead in life is to know exactly what you want. Like, what do you want to be known for? Okay. And I think no one, especially women, takes the time to sit down outside of their spouse, outside of their kids, outside of their family. No one takes the time to think, if money wasn't an object, what do I really want to do with my life? What what gifts do I really have that I want to share with people? What do I want to talk about all the time? Not like hobby, not like whatever. And it could be maybe it's a hobby you want to you want to take somewhere, but just what would I do if no one else's I wasn't people pleasing and money wasn't an object? What do I want to be? And I think that is the difference between truly successful people because they've leaned into what they really want to do and the people who don't go anywhere.

Speaker 3

I love that because what I'm hearing is I'm going places. Yeah, big places. We were talking before the show, and I was telling her my challenge on the goal side of things is like obviously when the show started, I didn't, well not obviously, I didn't have a plan. I just started it and was female empowerment, and that was it. Just start doing, right? Sometimes the done part, right? Not perfection, but doing and taking the steps, right? And it evolved and it came to this place where I was able to be like, okay, rise, rebuild, roar. Like those are pillars, those are gonna be workbooks, those are a system of helping women get back on their feet and have clay reclaim their voice after setbacks and whatever. Um but community is the thing that when we were just talking, I I've been like looking at doing a few documentaries and some other stuff, and you know, as I sit there looking at all the pieces and I keep pulling it, the one the centerpiece of all of it keeps being community for me. So like um we were talking before the show about like my kids' books, and like I said, I was like, where do those like fit in though? Because I have you know the podcast, I've got films, I've got the kids' books, uh you know, a lot of things, and and I like that you were you were able to tie it in for me with the community aspect. So like there's many aha's you're gonna have along the way. Yeah. Um, but like, how do you suggest people okay, that how do you help help them find a goal? Like, how do you set a goal for that? Like, like how do you find what you're trying to do?

Speaker 1

Well, I mean, you can't do it for someone else, right? You can't just like you can't want something and like we'll never be able to change a man or a woman or whatever, you know what I mean? But you but you just give them the space, right? Like, if you were my friend, I'd say, sweetheart, every time we get together, you're talking about things, but you're not talking about the thing you really want to do. Yeah, and then I'd probably gift you a journal. And I'd be like, the next time I see you, I want this to be filled of just ideas that you have, like crazy ideas that don't have to go anywhere that you just really want to do. Like take five minutes every day and be real quiet. And just if I could do anything today, what would I want to do? Write it down and then go about your day. Okay. Because after all, if you're writing that down, if you're putting it out there, if you're making it a practice, even if you don't have time and there's a million other outside influences, you're gonna be thinking all day long about what you wrote down in that journal. You're gonna be, it's gonna be percolating. Some of the things are gonna mesh, some of the things are gonna fall away and not matter, but it forces you to have that quiet moment. Yeah. To be like, okay, what do I really want to do with my life? And I don't have to ask Fred or Betty or worry about the kids or because everybody has an opinion. Every oh my god, everyone has opinion. If I listen to everyone else's opinion, I'd never I I'd literally probably be still in North Dakota, married to someone I was married to right out of college that hate my life, have like 900 kids, and like, I don't know, be knitting. Which is probably a wonderful life for someone, but it's not the life that I want. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3

Yeah, that's that's a good, that's a really good um a good approach. Because for me, like the action is is what I was, I guess, getting at. Because you know, you can set time aside, you can meditate, you can think, but like really, like you said, writing it down and putting your thoughts and feelings on paper and then being able to look back over it and kind of like decipher it, I guess, later. Um I love that idea. So that sounds like good homework for everybody who's watching the show.

Speaker 1

I think the biggest thing is that even as adults, we're waiting for permission. We're waiting for permission for someone to see us, we're waiting for permission for someone to notice us, but we're really just waiting for permission to be ourselves or the person we really wanted to be, or the kid we needed when we were younger. You know, we're all so worried about being judged or if it's cringe or what if it's not successful. We've forgotten how to like try to see if we like something. What if we're dreaming of doing something, but we're too worried about failing at it, so we never try. But what if we tried it, realized we hated it, and that freed us up to dream about something else? You gotta give yourself permission to fail to be yourself, to be cringe, to fit in, but also like to fail and just try. Like, who cares? I like to fail at a million things every single day. I go as my girlfriend's joke, like, you do that so fast. Why do you do that so fast? So I want to fail at it fast. I don't want to waste money and I don't want to waste my time. I want to know right now do I like this? Do I not like this?

Speaker 3

Is it a fit? Yeah. Sort of like the dating world.

Speaker 1

Right.

Speaker 3

So treat your life like the dating world.

Speaker 1

Maybe not that, because the dating world is like the wild west. And I feel like life should be a little more smoother.

Speaker 3

But hey, a girl's gotta eat, so um, so you have the so the next week's coming out. You have a podcast. I have a podcast, and this is new. It is very new. Like, like this is recent. Very recent. When I met her in January, she did not have it.

Speaker 1

I was adamant about not starting one. Yes. Do you want to tell us a little bit about it? Sure. It's also called Pitchworthy. Um, conveniently called Pitchworthy, the podcast. Branding. Yeah. Um, it's a podcast called Pitchworthy the Podcast. Stellar branding. Yeah. And it explores everything from public relations, but really being known. I think everyone's focused on visibility and getting out there more, and I want to be everywhere. And because my friend was on the cover of Forbes, I have to be on the cover of Forbes or those sorts of things. I think there is a strategic way to become the authority in your industry or whatever you want to do. A person known for what you want to be known for, it's simple steps. And so the whole season one is kind of a manifesto. It's all solo episodes of just me talking a lot, but I'm explaining, hey, have you thought of recognition this way? Have you thought of visibility this way? Have you thought of positioning yourself that way to get people thinking? I'm in the middle of recording season two. It launches in the middle of August. And season two was gonna have small business owners in the hot seat. Like I'm picking apart their business and being like, I know you think you have a cleaning business, but you really have a transformation business, and here's how you should position it for greatness. And then um it has that sounds really fun. Yeah, it's been really fun to just all kinds of different businesses and explore just how people think about what they're doing or why they started what they're doing, and it's everything from clothing brands to non-toxic home cleaners. And I really picked every industry because I think no matter what you do for a profession, the through lines are the same. We're all communicating the wrong way about the same things, and it's just kind of one little change will light a business on fire. So I think if your business is failing or you're not getting the attention you want, it's tiny tweaks that will make the whole difference. And I think people throw the baby out with the bathwater or throw a spaghetti at a wall to get things to stick. It really is how are you positioning yourself for your target audience? And so that's a lot of what the second season of the podcast is gonna focus on.

Speaker 3

So do you both throw out the baby with the bathwater and the spaghetti on the wall?

Speaker 1

Well, people do, and they burn the whole house down, right? Like all the cliches. But all you really need to do is take a step back. What is the goal? Yeah, why am I doing this? What parts of these don't fit? Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 3

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Speaker 2

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Speaker 3

Yeah, it's an experience. Oh for sure. Oh, yeah, for sure. And we're back. We were talking during the break a little bit about how you can start life at any age. I'm 40. Oh my god, I'm almost rounding myself up. In August, I'm 45. I almost said I'm 45.

Speaker 1

I still have a few weeks, but I'm kind of leaning into it already, like mid-40s. Okay, but even how you were just like, oh my god, I'm rounding up. My mom was 45. Like the pan, who cares? 45. If you think about it, you're 45. Think of all the amazing things, all the classum things that you've uh that you've achieved in the first 45 years. Congratulations. You're not even at midlife yet. So think of you have 45 more years to achieve great things. Right. Right? I'm 47. Yeah. So when who who makes Vera Wang at 47? She wasn't even designing her first wedding dresses, right?

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Speaker 1

Like, think about it. She wasn't even designing her first wedding dresses at 47. Now she's like the wedding dress person. Martha Stewart, she didn't have her first cookbook to like lay third. She shouldn't go to jail till when? I don't know. I don't know. Well, that's helped her out. Now she's friends with Snoop, right? So I mean, see what? Literally recording. Anytime. Anytime. Anytime. But I feel like it's I hear it a lot from people like, oh, I'm so old, or oh, whatever. One, I hate when I hate when someone in their 30s says, I'm so old. Like, honey, talk to me. 17 years, you're senior. We'll talk, let's talk about this later. Um, but I think you can do anything you put your mind to, and you're only as old as you feel, or you stop yourself. Believe. And relieve, right? And like, whatever, whatever limiting belief you want to have, then you're gonna have that. But I think once you stop moving, once you stop using your mind, you see them people that retire, right? Like people retire and then they're like, oh my god, Bob retired three days ago and he dropped dead. Yeah, because Bob stopped working, he stopped thinking, he's not doing it. Bob was not living his life. Bob was sitting in front of the television and there was no point to being alive. Right, right. Like you have to use your mind, you have to be excited, you have to have joy for life.

Speaker 3

And like literally do something fun, but also like be in the world, engaging with others. Like, I think that's we're all here, we're all here. We're we're we're alive. Like, yeah, the idea of retirement, it blows my mind because I get that that's I ever will. No, I don't believe I don't believe in that word actually. I when I worked briefly at the city for like three whatever years, and I went to these retirement parties, they don't all have like beach themes because they were like, we're gonna go to the beach finally. And I'm like, you waited till you're 70 to go to the beach, you're not even hot anymore. Like, why wouldn't you go while you're young and hot still and like have fun and while you could still like probably try surfing? And like I was just making a hip. It made me so depressed, and I was like, oh my god, this is what this is what retirement people do.

Speaker 1

I know. Well, I mean, we talked earlier about like your biggest fear in life. My biggest fear in life is like we're only guaranteed so many days to go immediately morbid to you. But yeah, my biggest fear in life is that I'm gonna be on my deathbed saying to my friends, like, Oh, I wish I would have. I wish I would have tried, I wish I would have, whatever. No, if I go out tomorrow and my friends come visit me in the hospital, we're gonna be sitting there and we're all gonna be laughing our asses off. They're gonna be like, remember that time you tried, and it'll be the most embarrassing moment of my life, and it's fine because we're laughing about it now. Yeah, because everything is a good story at the end.

Speaker 3

Yeah, everything's a good story, and everything um is kind of temporary a little bit. Like Yeah, we all die. We all die eventually. We all die. So live your life while you can. Right. Um, and we're gonna finish out, but I I wanted to talk about your podcast and podcast guests. Yes. So, because I've learned You've had some while I've had some guests that have been much more of a challenge than I would have and anticipated. Um, and required a lot more energy from me. And like when you're recording, you're I mean, live audience, but like, and we can do edits, but like, yeah, your brain's constantly trying to like um corral or like shape things. Yeah, like this has been great because you you're a pro and we're just literally having a conversation.

Speaker 1

But um, have you had any guests that have been challenging? Oh, yes. Oh my gosh, yes. Because I feel like I can talk to anyone. I feel like I love talking. I say, but there are certain people where it is so awkward, it is like talking to an inanimate object and you're just pulling information from them. And if you have a 20-minute podcast, those 20 minutes feel like two hours. I get shit for this all the time, but I think anyone can have a podcast, but I don't think everyone should have a podcast. And anyone can be a podcast guest, but I think there are a few people who should not be podcast guests. Like you have to know, you know, can't ramble for forever, short, whatever. You have to have be animated, but also like you can't be running circles around your host being just wild and wacky. Like, you don't go on a Christian podcast and then be like, well, the devil, and then throw in all the F-bombs and then burn the set down. Like you just don't.

Speaker 3

There's a time and a place. Time and a place. I do love being a you know, actually, I on that note, I I kind of want to be on more podcasts myself as a guest as I build out the rise, the rebuild roar kind of system. Oh, and so my recent um, I guess, relationship ending or whatnot, however you call that, uh, the end of a relationship. It gave me an idea for something because like there's driver's ed and there's like financial education. Yeah, and I know there's there's like millions of relationship books, but dating ed. It's I'm thinking about something and maybe creating like a whole program of courses for people to learn how to date better so that they aren't hurting each other. Like because I don't know if we're all emotional intelligence is lacking. Yeah, so Boundaries 101 is the first workbook I've done. It's online now.

Speaker 1

Wait, in your drive so in driver's ed, if you're a bad driver, they eventually take your license away. I mean, I wish I'd be able to do it. In dating ed, should we just pull someone's like dating card?

Speaker 3

I feel like we should be able to do that.

Speaker 1

I feel like we should. That really should catch on.

Speaker 3

It I mean, we'll tell you more another time, but there were some things in the hidden folder on the phone of the person I was seeing that would revoke your license.

Speaker 1

So I mean, for a living, but yeah.

Speaker 3

But um, yeah, okay, cool. So dating Ed, yay. Life inspires you. Hopefully, everything that you do, good or bad, like I hope I'm always just redemption is a big thing to me. Seeing it becomes something good out of whatever the train wreck of whatever it was. Yeah.

Speaker 1

Um well, everything's a lesson, yeah. And every day is a school day, right? So you can either let it crush you and then be curled up on your bathroom floor crying. Yeah, you can't. Or it can be like, which is fine, like do that for a couple hours. It's delicious. But also then you will like you can't unpack and stay there. Right. You can't Oh my god, so good. Let's do that. I can eat like the whole thing. But you can't unpack and stay there. Like that's not a pity party, it's not a vacation forever. Well, it's not a vacation either. It's a little depressing. Well, I mean, some of us have been on depressing vacations.

Speaker 3

Oh my god, I don't even know what a vacation is. I'm just kidding.

Speaker 1

Yeah, and that's depressing.

Speaker 3

That is depressing. God, me, my cat, and my ice cream. It's the closest I've come. Um people call that paradise. Okay, you know what? See, perspective. We should like co-host something. Probably. I don't know, the world can handle it. I don't know if we can handle it. It'd be perfect. It would be so fun. Well, thanks for being on the show. Um, stay encouraged, stay hopeful. You know what? Hold on. Hold on. I am skipping over really important things. What? How do people find you?

Speaker 1

Oh my gosh, you can find me. Who needs to find me?

Speaker 3

Whoa, is this girl?

Speaker 1

Why am I even KJ Blattenbauer? She's just chatting with me. We're just chatting. Um, you can find me at hearsaypr.com or you can find Pitchworthy at PitchworthyTorkbook anywhere books are sold on Amazon.

Speaker 3

And then uh socials, you have a KJ Blattenbauer. KJ Blattenbauer, that is a long last name. But I do I actually spell it correctly for some reason. I don't know how I do it, but I did it. Because you're talented. I really do have a gift. And then for me, if you're watching this, uh you already found it. But if you have friends, which I hope you do, um, send it to them because it's a really fun show and hopefully it encourages you and brings some joy into your life. Now I'm gonna say stay encouraged, stay hopeful, stay classome, and we're gonna rise, rebuild, roar.